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buddyb Admin

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messi Moderator
Number of posts: 306 Age: 52 Where u from ?: back the west Registration date: 2007-02-14
 | Subject: Re: UNDERAGE COUNTY MANAGEMENT????????? Thu Mar 13, 2008 5:36 pm | |
| not sure if they get paid buddy,prob get expenses,not sure though,i agree with u though,whoever does the job or is appointed 2 do the job should have in depth knowledge of the juvenile game,prime example i could probably tell u the in's and out's of every junior side and player in the top divisions,i could prob do a good job managin the oscar traynor team but i wouldn't have a clue when it comes 2 juveniles,cos i rarely see juvenile games. |
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Guest Guest
 | Subject: Re: UNDERAGE COUNTY MANAGEMENT????????? Fri Mar 14, 2008 8:39 am | |
| JOBS FOR THE BOYS .  I'd heard that in january and the way it was put to me was " guess whos involved with the town team U 14 " with an air of incredability attached . Maybe , on the other hand no one wants these " town team gigs " |
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buddyb Admin

Number of posts: 2929 Age: 119 Where u from ?: Everywhere... Registration date: 2006-11-14
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ben Moderator
Number of posts: 3 Registration date: 2006-12-20
 | Subject: Re: UNDERAGE COUNTY MANAGEMENT????????? Fri Mar 14, 2008 4:54 pm | |
| do ye know who the manager is and who are his assistants? |
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buddyb Admin

Number of posts: 2929 Age: 119 Where u from ?: Everywhere... Registration date: 2006-11-14
 | Subject: Re: UNDERAGE COUNTY MANAGEMENT????????? Fri Mar 14, 2008 5:00 pm | |
| Im talking all age groups by the way , just picked u14 as someone mentioned to me he was surprised at the lack of credentials, at underage by one of the assistant/helpers involved. May well be doing a good job , i dont know, just wondering who appoints these people??? I asked the question here last yr. re u15s having the same manager as Mervue, and the possibility of poaching going on !!! Just feel independent manager should be appointed and im not talking about myself as i have no interest in football at any capacity at present!!!
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buddyb Admin

Number of posts: 2929 Age: 119 Where u from ?: Everywhere... Registration date: 2006-11-14
 | Subject: Re: UNDERAGE COUNTY MANAGEMENT????????? Fri Mar 14, 2008 5:04 pm | |
| Just heard names , but wont be printed on this site BEN !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
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ben Moderator
Number of posts: 3 Registration date: 2006-12-20
 | Subject: Re: UNDERAGE COUNTY MANAGEMENT????????? Fri Mar 14, 2008 5:47 pm | |
| ok let me fill you in .manager, coach,assistant coach.manager brought in "helper" or assistant coach to help not the galway fa.he has experience at underage level and has alot of coaching experience.he doesn't need to have knowledge of the juvenile league,just be a good coach.he also is not involved with a juvenille team |
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ben Moderator
Number of posts: 3 Registration date: 2006-12-20
 | Subject: Re: UNDERAGE COUNTY MANAGEMENT????????? Fri Mar 14, 2008 6:01 pm | |
| manager is also neutral,and has alot of experience, surly the buck stops with manager, and not the coaches as they do what the manager asks. |
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buddyb Admin

Number of posts: 2929 Age: 119 Where u from ?: Everywhere... Registration date: 2006-11-14
 | Subject: Re: UNDERAGE COUNTY MANAGEMENT????????? Fri Mar 14, 2008 8:12 pm | |
| Ben, im not stating that these managers, coaches ect. are not doing the job properely and fair play to the genuine ones that are there for the good of the lads they are entrusted with , to do the best they can with them and return them to their home clubs!!! But it seems to me esp. at u14s and u15s the people brought in, on the whole , are either Salthill or Mervue with some having no connection with Juv. football in Galway. Whats wrong with the coaches from Hibs, Knocknacarra, Barna, Tuam, Colga, Moyne Villa ect. Are they not good enough????? Also you have not addressed the initial questions : On what grounds are they picked, by who exactly, are they paid and another one to add to the list why are these young lads being approached at County training, over the yrs. to sign for other clubs(mainly the big two ) in the absence of a parent or guardian. Perhaps not the example i used u14s, but i have heard at first hand from the players themselves!!!!
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buddyb Admin

Number of posts: 2929 Age: 119 Where u from ?: Everywhere... Registration date: 2006-11-14
 | Subject: Re: UNDERAGE COUNTY MANAGEMENT????????? Fri Mar 14, 2008 9:02 pm | |
| In the last 4yrs since i took an interest in Juv. football , 2 as manager of a very good T.C side i have never seen the above managers jobs advertised anywhere , surely even the few clowns in the F.A running the show that is football , SHOULD give a fair crack of the whip to all managers and coaches at underage to apply for the job , no matter what club their with. Before someone comes on and says but Salthill and Mervue are the best two sides in underage in Galway, why wouldnt they be when half their teams are not from them areas anyway. Even the great "DUSTIN" could win the leagues with the teams they can put out. Does not make their managers the best there is , as its the teams with homegrown talent that break through the hard way , that quantifies a good manager/coach!!! Ben , you have gone quiet on me.................
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buzz Moderator
Number of posts: 102 Registration date: 2006-12-10
 | Subject: Re: UNDERAGE COUNTY MANAGEMENT????????? Sat Mar 15, 2008 7:22 pm | |
| Fair play to ya buddy,one of the reasons the BIG 2 are so strong is that for years they have been using county set up to "INVITE" talented players into their clubs.This goes on at ALL age levels.Prime example,recent appointment of salthill devons new A team managers currently using Galway Town contacts to "INVITE" players into new set up!! How are smaller clubs expected to progress? Something has to be done... smaller clubs are increasingly reluctant to send lads into county set up for fear of never seeing them again.Does G&DL rule 28 count for anything??? |
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buddyb Admin

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buzz Moderator
Number of posts: 102 Registration date: 2006-12-10
 | Subject: Re: UNDERAGE COUNTY MANAGEMENT????????? Sat Mar 15, 2008 7:40 pm | |
| rule 28,INDUCEMENT... Any club or team found guilty of inducing or attempting to induce players from another club or clubs will be dealt with severely by the commitee. |
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Borat Moderator

Number of posts: 1475 Age: 18 Where u from ?: kazakstan - whoore house 134 Registration date: 2007-01-25
 | Subject: Re: UNDERAGE COUNTY MANAGEMENT????????? Mon Mar 17, 2008 3:42 am | |
| | ben wrote: | | ok let me fill you in .manager, coach,assistant coach.manager brought in "helper" or assistant coach to help not the galway fa.he has experience at underage level and has alot of coaching experience.he doesn't need to have knowledge of the juvenile league,just be a good coach.he also is not involved with a juvenille team |
Sorry Ben , what you have just said is horses***e , neutral ?
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Borat Moderator

Number of posts: 1475 Age: 18 Where u from ?: kazakstan - whoore house 134 Registration date: 2007-01-25
 | Subject: Re: UNDERAGE COUNTY MANAGEMENT????????? Mon Mar 17, 2008 3:50 am | |
| | buzz wrote: | | Fair play to ya buddy,one of the reasons the BIG 2 are so strong is that for years they have been using county set up to "INVITE" talented players into their clubs.This goes on at ALL age levels.Prime example,recent appointment of salthill devons new A team managers currently using Galway Town contacts to "INVITE" players into new set up!! How are smaller clubs expected to progress? Something has to be done... smaller clubs are increasingly reluctant to send lads into county set up for fear of never seeing them again.Does G&DL rule 28 count for anything??? |
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lantern bar Moderator

Number of posts: 729 Registration date: 2007-04-17
 | Subject: who Mon Mar 17, 2008 4:00 pm | |
| BY RIGHT THESE UNDERAGE POSTS SHOULD BE ADVERTISED IN LOCAL PAPERS.FOR TO LONG THE SAME FACES HAVE BEEN INVOLVED.WAS TOLD BY A TOWN MANAGER 2YRS AGO WHEN THE POSITION WAS UP 4 RENEWAL HE WAS APPROACHED BY ANOTHER CLUB OFFICAL AND ASKED WUD HE B INTERESTED.WOT TYPE OF DEMOCRATIC VOTE IS THAT.THIS NEEDS TO BE ADDRESSED AT THE GALWAY FA ANNUAL MEETING |
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lantern bar Moderator

Number of posts: 729 Registration date: 2007-04-17
 | Subject: under Mon Mar 17, 2008 5:48 pm | |
| ALSO BUD WHEN THESE POSITIONS BCOME AVAILABLE ALL CLUBS SECETATERIES SHUD B NOTIFIED .BUT HOPE PEOPLE WHO APPLY ARE NOT SELECTED JUST BY THE NUMBER OF BADGES THEY HAVE |
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galwaygooner Moderator

Number of posts: 250 Registration date: 2007-07-03
 | Subject: Re: UNDERAGE COUNTY MANAGEMENT????????? Mon Mar 17, 2008 8:57 pm | |
| | buddyb wrote: | | Agree totally Hibs and these posts should be filled at underage level by people associated with the particular age group i.e U12S.....an u12manager, likewise for u14s ....an u14s manager!!! Its not everyone that can interact with young fellas of that age , certainly not a prem. manager from Salthill. Different kettle of fish , as would be the difficulty of an u14s team manager taking over Salthills Prem team !!! It works both ways......... |
Who are we talking about ?????? |
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buddyb Admin

Number of posts: 2929 Age: 119 Where u from ?: Everywhere... Registration date: 2006-11-14
 | Subject: Re: UNDERAGE COUNTY MANAGEMENT????????? Mon Mar 17, 2008 9:41 pm | |
| g.g we are debating whether a prem. manager from one of the big two , with no juv. connection since he played 25 yrs ago should be involved with county u14s???? I reckon he has no knowledge or familiarity with these lads or juv. set up??? Also rumour has it aledgely they get some form of payment and no one knows how the F.A pick these individuals as the posts are never advertised!!!Jobs for boys!!! |
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OwenM Moderator
Number of posts: 21 Registration date: 2006-12-06
 | Subject: Re: UNDERAGE COUNTY MANAGEMENT????????? Tue Mar 18, 2008 12:05 pm | |
| Town under 14 manager actually plays with Athenry He has watched all teams in league at some stage He should be able to appoint who he wants as assistants! |
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Borat Moderator

Number of posts: 1475 Age: 18 Where u from ?: kazakstan - whoore house 134 Registration date: 2007-01-25
 | Subject: Re: UNDERAGE COUNTY MANAGEMENT????????? Tue Mar 18, 2008 12:43 pm | |
| | OwenM wrote: | Town under 14 manager actually plays with Athenry He has watched all teams in league at some stage He should be able to appoint who he wants as assistants! |
He plays junior soccer with Athenry , fair enough .Most of the above posts concern his asst . Surele people involved full time in the league would be more suited to running the teams , does that not make sense . Were the two / three lads involved be the Oscar Traynor managers I and others would see no problem . At this stage I will leave it and wish them all the best with the job in hand , but it does seem a starnge selection by whoever made it . |
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buddyb Admin

Number of posts: 2929 Age: 119 Where u from ?: Everywhere... Registration date: 2006-11-14
 | Subject: Re: UNDERAGE COUNTY MANAGEMENT????????? Tue Mar 18, 2008 1:30 pm | |
| Town under 14 manager actually plays with Athenry He has watched all teams in league at some stage He should be able to appoint who he wants as assistants! OwenM Owen, im well aware of the managers c.v , did well for Athenry over last few yrs.!!! But was also good enough for a stint in England which goes a fair way in my book to qualify him as manager!!! But if you read the posts , its not him we are talking about but his assistant , who as i said has no connection to Juv. football. Its like you being appointed and bringing in 2 brothers or 2 neighbours or 2 muck savages that have no connection. But the original question was, who picks them , are they paid, how are they picked ( is it advertised ???) |
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niall99 Moderator
Number of posts: 148 Registration date: 2006-12-08
 | Subject: Re: UNDERAGE COUNTY MANAGEMENT????????? Tue Mar 18, 2008 2:15 pm | |
| | buddyb wrote: | Its like you being appointed and bringing in 2 brothers or 2 neighbours or 2 muck savages that have no connection. But the original question was, who picks them , are they paid, how are they picked ( is it advertised ???) |
i have very limited knowledge (i.e. none!!) of the selection process but always assumed that someone on the Galway FA just went out and appointed a manager directly - i have never seen a position advertised at any level.
if the assistant is who i think it is from previous posts i don't think that he could be described as 'bringing in 2 brothers or 2 neighbours or 2 muck savages'!! granted he has no visible connection to the age group but perhaps that might be a blessing in disguise as there is no chance of the 'poaching' accusations that are always mentioned on this forum.
perhaps ALL age groups management should be given to managers and assistants who are not managing in the age group (provided they make an effort at going to the games in the age group) as it will mean that they are not recruiting or favoring their own. last year the under 18s got to the final and lost on penalties and the manager was point blank accused by some on here of favoring players from his own club.
are managers paid?? I don't know but surely it should be an honor and done on a voluntary basis. |
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 | Subject: Re: UNDERAGE COUNTY MANAGEMENT????????? Tue Mar 18, 2008 3:12 pm | |
| | niall99 wrote: | | buddyb wrote: | Its like you being appointed and bringing in 2 brothers or 2 neighbours or 2 muck savages that have no connection. But the original question was, who picks them , are they paid, how are they picked ( is it advertised ???) |
i have very limited knowledge (i.e. none!!) of the selection process but always assumed that someone on the Galway FA just went out and appointed a manager directly - i have never seen a position advertised at any level.
if the assistant is who i think it is from previous posts i don't think that he could be described as 'bringing in 2 brothers or 2 neighbours or 2 muck savages'!! granted he has no visible connection to the age group but perhaps that might be a blessing in disguise as there is no chance of the 'poaching' accusations that are always mentioned on this forum.
perhaps ALL age groups management should be given to managers and assistants who are not managing in the age group (provided they make an effort at going to the games in the age group) as it will mean that they are not recruiting or favoring their own. last year the under 18s got to the final and lost on penalties and the manager was point blank accused by some on here of favoring players from his own club.
are managers paid?? I don't know but surely it should be an honor and done on a voluntary basis. |
Fair point niall99 , but the guy in question has a connection to the chief poachers , he is their 1st team manager ! Lets let things be on this won and see how many of this team end up at Salthill Devon come July , should make some nice reading . |
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lantern bar Moderator

Number of posts: 729 Registration date: 2007-04-17
 | Subject: wh Tue Mar 18, 2008 11:28 pm | |
| SEEING AS WE ALL HAVE STRONG OPINIONS ON THIS SUBJECT LETS GET IT BROUGHT UP AT THE GALWAY AGM,IF WE ALL APPROACH OUR CLUB SECRETARYS AND AS THEM TO PUT IT ON THE AGENDA WE SHOULD GET OUR ANSWERS |
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buddyb Admin

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